10.07.2019 | Words by: Call Super
A pub by Victoria Park, London in May 2019. Dwayne’s car was locked in a car pound for a few hours before it could be retrieved. We were chatting about driving before moving on to some questions we had prepared for each other.
Call Super: I wanna talk about driving because you drive everywhere. When did you get your driving licence?
Parris: August 2013
CS: Did you get a car straight away?
P: Bought my car off my ex girlfriend pretty soon after yeah.
CS: I know you live a bit outside the centre of London but is there another reason why you like driving?
P: Long story short, I was catching a cab one night and I watched someone get beaten up in the cab centre next to me and I was like, ‘I’m gonna get a car’.
CS: That’s a very good reason. And ever since then you’ve just driven everywhere?
P: Yeah cos I used to live in Tottenham, then I lived in Bristol, then I lived in Peckham, now I live in Surbiton and when you’ve in many far away places it makes sense.
CS: And you can drive to the rave, and drive people home.
P: There’s been a lot of driving everyone home over the years.
CS: Do you feel there’s any connection between driving and music?
P: Yes, because I think a lot of artists and a lot of DJs generally check music in the car. It seems if it can sound good in the car it can sound good anywhere.
CS: Really? I always thought the bass is way off.
P: I think so but if you can make something sound good on a shit pair of speakers…
CS: No of course, that’s a great way to judge music but I think I’d rather use a small pair of crappy speakers than a car. I like listening to music on laptop speakers.
P: I heard a story once that Joker makes tunes specifically for his car. This is years ago.
CS: The other story is Blake Baxter I think made When We Used To Play on computer type speakers. Loads of Chicago producers had budget speaker set ups which is why those records are so punchy in the mids. So you don’t have that Kraftwerk thing where there is music that is made in celebration of driving or just sounds amazing when driving? Like Tracy Chapman does.
P: I feel like it depends on the time of day. Like at night Dubstep sounds just right cos it reminds me of going to clubs when I first went out in London. Daytime more Hip Hop and Rap. Night time more Dance. I think certain tunes and vibes fit certain journeys, like motorways. Dubstep is not built for motorways, its inner city, for when I’m driving round the inner city roads it feels just right in that context.
CS: When I’m driving I just listen to Radio 1.
P: Is it any good?
CS: Its always good. Loads of shit music but its good for driving.
P: I’ve been getting into LBC.
CS: Talk radio?
P: Talk radio.
CS: Nigel Farage?
P: I’ve always switched off by then.
CS: James O'Brien?
P: A lot of James O'Brien. The time I go to the studio is basically the time of his show. It’s always between Nick Ferrari and James O'Brien so I get a little bit of both.
CS: I only listen to Brexit politicians.
P: How come?
CS: Cos what they say resonates with me… I’m lying sorry. I don’t even listen to Radio 1. Have you heard the shit they play? Though it can be good late at night! Was also lying about driving, I’ve never even had a lesson.
P: When I go to the warehouse where we take cellophane off CDs they got Radio 1 on in this depressing warehouse in Aylesbury. Ah its so horrible. You ever worked in a warehouse?
CS: No. Call Centre probably the closest in vibe. Obviously no music there though.
P: If I worked in a warehouse I would definitely listen to Radio 1. OK so whats the best musical experience you’ve had in a club over to the past 12 months?
CS: In general over the last year or two I often find a lump in my throat watching friends play when everything is clicking into gear. It’s just the best. If I had to pick one night (and without being too sycophantic on here) the De School weekender in December was one of those where you wake up with a golden daze for a week or two after. The warm joy of what this can be was dripping through my system for a while! There were lots of moments in there where the music seemed to make the place levitate. Objekt and Stingray having a scratch off, when Josey played I’ll Say A Prayer 4 U, Bass Clef tromboning along to the end of mine and Bill Kouligas’ set, the steady dissolving of the past two days into Gatto Fritto’s set at the end. The push and pull inside me in the weeks after of wanting to do it again but knowing there’s no point as it had been done as good as we felt capable of. All very special feelings!
P: What’s the last video games console you owned?
CS: A Game Boy. I’ve never seemed to find the time for video games.
P: If you could time travel what era of music would you choose to experience first hand and why?
CS: You know me. NYC between about 1950 and 1985. I’ve written before about the impact of the Cuban immigrants on the jazz scene in New York being instrumental in the evolution of our music and if I could have 35 years to see all of that eventually roll into Fania then into Salsoul then into 99 Records first hand then I think I’d have had my fill from this question. Makes me sad when people start on about the history of dance music beginning with Disco and just ignoring the Cubans and Puerta Ricans who created everything that became Disco. These were all ages when it was easy to recognize culture as the stuff that lived for the sake of creation, that defined itself as everything that wasn’t materialism and consumption. I think that began to be eroded in the 80s and we’re now where we are today where alternative culture is seen by many as just a springboard to become successful. It’s so corrosive and fucked.
P: Do you feel like you see colour in music and if so do you feel like you write in any specific colours / any favourites to write in or in a range?
CS: I don’t have synesthesia, no.
P: We've spoken before and said that when it comes to music there's no such thing as guilty pleasures, when listening to music at home / in the car it's easier for that to be more apparent as our listening habits can be more 'private' but what about in the club?
CS: Nope. Pleasure should never induce guilt. If you like something then you obviously think it’s got something to it. Just play it and stop being uptight!
Aside from anything to do with health what are you fearful of or worried about when it comes to yourself?
P: As I become older I'm not really too sure if I'm really fearful or worried about anything but I think that time seems to move so much faster at this point so I would say losing time. Everything feels like it lasts forever when you're young but everything just seems to fly once you pass a certain point. Sometimes you look around and half a year is gone and you think 'where did that go and what have I done!?'. I'd rather not look back and go 'man I should have done so much more when I was X age'.
CS: How and when did making music become something you thought you could do with life?
P: I’m not too sure really, if I had to put a bit more of a stamp on it I would say 2014 / 2015. When I started looking forward to writing music and it felt like a natural part of me is when it felt like something I could do with life. Even when I get frustrated or have writers block I still want to write, it's just part of my process these days. I always look forward to the studio and it's one of the only things in life I'm always happy to get stuck in at all times.
CS: Do you ever think that the need to make something comes because time is forever slipping away? Everything that has ever been made is a product of time that has disappeared, but what I love about music is that the act of playing something brings it back to life. I think in a way that’s why I love this medium so much.
P: Ah that's an interesting way of thinking about it. Making things helps in documenting a very specific space / mark on the world but I think that the best things in time aren't the things which try to be timeless but rather stuff which exists for it's own self-sufficiency whether that be for one person / a small group of people. I think when there's a lack of concern for anything then something can connect at any point; When something is personal the feelings don't leave and someone a million life times away can still connect which is the best part of anything creative.
CS: Cremation or burial?
P: OoOoOoOoOoOo hard one, maybe cremation as there's no real need for me to still be visible once I don't exist in this world anymore. It's nice for somewhere for family to visit but also I like the idea of leaving my life in it's time and saving space on this earth for the living. What would be your last day of meals on this planet?
CS: Breakfast - Kippers, toast and a couple of hash browns. Lunch - Puttanesca made with a couple of tins of anchovy’s per person. Dinner - Oysters followed by either a roast chicken or roast rib of beef with horseradish and all the trimmings. I wouldn’t need to eat til I’d gotten though purgatory after all that.Call Super and Parris play Het Muzieklokaal together this Friday. Tickets are still available here.